I feel your words like the neverending discussion between windoze and unixes ......my opinion is that if you want to do powerful things you need , or you have to develop, powerful stuff. Personally i come from the database world where things like sorting are very important. And where is the complexity? If you don't need that feature, simply don't use it. If with your words you mean the complexity of the code, i'm sure that most people said "zope is too complex" when the accompainig documentation was too old to be useful and when the source code wasn't commented a lot ...but it's one issue for many open source projects, not only for zope...I don't think other projects stops introducing new features in that situation, especially when they are really useful as the Oleg's one
I think that's more difficult to find an application where a powerful sort doesn't help. :-)
I am not arguing the requirement or the usefulness of what Oleg has done, I'm arguing the proposed implementation. For those who are following this thread, I've added a comment to the proposal with an idea that I think may be a good solution that could make everyone happy: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ExtendedDTMLSorting If not then we'll go back to the drawing board, but this is what the Fishbowl is _for_ folks. It is for providing an open forum for everyone interested to champion their agendas and to come to sound, well thought out (and sometimes well argued) decisions. And it usually works, which is what makes it worth all of these black eyes and lumps on my head... :) Brian Lloyd brian@digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com