I got the zope book this last week, and this is my first introduction to using zope. I downloaded the latest version of zope on my Windows machine. I have it all working, and have been happy with it for a few days now. I made it through the zope tutorial, and the first few chapters in the book with no problem. In chapter four, I had one change that I figured out. In a Script(Python) "hasVisitedZoo", to use the cookies, REQUEST has to be set to container.REQUEST. I am guessing this must be something new in the later release or something. Anyways, I am now in chapter 5, and there is a navigation DTML method that is supposed to print links to the various folders. In my index_html, also it is supposed to print the folder name rather than the DTML Document name (index_html) from the figures. Did something change to make it where I have to specify what to use? I didn't find how to set a variable to the folder to be used yet, or I would have figured what should have been written. The interesting thing was that earlier in chapter 4, I had a <dtml-var title> in a file, and it put the folder name even though the document also had a title. (Feedbags if you know the book). While writing this email, I figured it out. I decided index_html would be a DTML Document rather than a Method. This difference was not pointed out in the book (at least the print version), if it is not in the online one with comments, I will add the comment myself. :-) It does say to create a DTML Method in the folder called index_html, I just started adding it, and thought to myself, this is document. Anyways, I needlessly spent hours trying to solve this. On with life. Thanks, -walter