I wrote concerning book examples, and was asked to clarify what was going on. Here is "navigation" which exists in root: <dtml-if expr="_.len(PARENTS) > 1"> <h2><dtml-var title_or_id>Section</h2> <a href="..">Return to parent</a><br> </dtml-if> <ul> <dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')"> <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"> <dtml-var title_or_id></a> <br></li></dtml-in> </ul> and here is index_html from /ChemAdm/FallSched: <dtml-var standard_html_header> <h1>This is the Fall Master Schedule</h1> <hr>Choose from the above days of the week to see<hr> <dtml-tree> <dtml-var getId> </dtml-tree> <hr> <p>This is the <dtml-var id> Document in the FallSched folder.</p> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> To the best of my knowledge there are no typos here, and yet ... Thanks for any help Carl David