So let's see. We're talking about a company interested in reaching out to their marketplace--current and potential. They want to find people who perhaps looked at Zope and then abandoned it to understand why they did so. They are looking for feedback from the community, and the first response on this list is a load of unprofessional, immature, profanity? Come on now. Try to be a grown up for a few minutes. If you're truly offended, head on over to their survey and let them know. I for one have no need of this blather on the mail list. I have code to write and problems to solve. Ray -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Raymond Cote, President Appropriate Solutions, Inc. www.AppropriateSolutions.com rgacote@AppropriateSolutions.com 603.924.6079(v) POB 458, Peterborough, NH 03458 603.924.8668(f)