I attempted to port my team's WebLogic 5.1 application to JBoss and found that when the proverbial rubber met the road, JBoss was an interesting academic exercise, but certainly not ready for prime time. After three months of patching the source and trying to force it to work, we gave up. Avoiding the BEA development license fees just weren't worth the pain. And if that wasn't enough reason to shun it, take a look at some of the communications from Fleury (dev lead for JBoss). Reading the mailing list for JBoss is like watching Days of our Lives, but without the acting talent or plot. If someone challenges him seriously, he generally flames them and then removes them from the list. That entire community represents (IMO) the dark side of cowboy open source development. Always remember and never take for granted that we (Zope/Python) have a wonderful, open and friendly open source community. Other open source communities are not nearly as approachable. Keyton --- Oliver Bleutgen <myzope@gmx.net> wrote:
fsd fds wrote:
--- seb bacon <seb@jamkit.com> wrote: >
For a more meaningful comparison, you could compare zope to J2EE, which provides for concepts of object-relational mapping, persistence, etc. The open source J2EE server is jboss.
You're right.
I'm checking out www.jboss.org They have claims like "JBOSS #1 AMONG OPEN SOURCE APPLICATION SERVERS"
"4000 DOWNLOADS PER DAY, JBOSS SETS NEW RECORD" (anyone knows about zope download statistics? is ZC reading this?)
seems pretty nice. Damn, now I have to spend the whole day installing stuff and reading docs ;-)
You can look at the statistics of zope.org at http://ns1.zope.org:82/
There you'll find some data for instance under "top urls by kbytes":
8912 /Products/Zope/2.4.3/Zope-2.4.3-win32-x86.exe 3228 /Products/Zope/2.4.3/Zope-2.4.3-linux2-x86.tgz 976 /Products/Zope/2.4.1/Zope-2.4.1-linux2-x86.tgz 983 /Products/Zope/2.5.0b3/Zope-2.5.0b3-win32-x86.exe 795 /Products/Zope/2.4.1/Zope-2.4.1-win32-x86.exe 753 /Products/Zope/2.5.0b4/Zope-2.5.0b4-win32-x86.exe 1213 /Products/Zope/2.4.3/Zope-2.4.3-src.tgz 543 /Products/Zope/2.5.0b3/Zope-2.5.0b3-linux2-x86.tgz
makes 17403 downloads in 16 days =~ 1100 downloads per day for a time which includes a quite inactive period (beginning of the year). And there are more versions of zope downloadable than this statistic tells us.
Nonetheless, I heard that jboss is quite a competitive product in the J2EE scene, regardless of it's price.
cheers, oliver
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