Craig Related to your question, the following external method is very handy: import whrandom def selection_nr(self,elems,no=15): '''selection_nr(self,no=15) returns a random selection of n elements from list elems without replacement''' if len(elems)<=15: return elems random_list=[] for i in range(no): elem=whrandom.choice(elems) random_list.append(elem) elems.remove(elem) return random_list given a list of objects it will return a random list of length no. So if you have a folder of images or quotes or whatever and you need to return a random selection you can use the following DTML: <!--# in "selection_nr(objectValues(['Folder'],4))" <!--# var title --> <!--#/in--> will select randomly 4 subfolders and display their title. Pavlos