It should be said that some of the comments are insightful (at least worth a second read), especially when it comes to new features or API additions, etc... Sean -----Original Message----- From: Shad Young [mailto:foxwolfen@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:11 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope Thank you all, That has provided the basic help I needed :) I had tried the book before, but until Paul mentioned the talk back feature I did not notice the "com on/com off button" Now it is readable. *ROFL* *rolls up sleeves and pours himself a coffee*. "The Zope Book, Chapter 1: Introducing Zope This chapter explains what Zope is and who it's for. It describes in broad... " See you in a few days :) Cheers Shad _______________________________________________________________________ Have an article, story or essay you want to publish online? We need content. Ascendant: food for the thinking mind. http://www3.sympatico.ca/sberaud _______________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shad Young" <foxwolfen@hotmail.com> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope
I am a bit jargon challenged when it come to Zope and Python. Could you please clarify ZPT? I have not come across this term yet, or if I have it is only in the long form. What I really need right now, more than a debate on what works best, is, as I asked in my first email, some pointers to the FM (Fine Manual) so I can R(ead) it. ;)
What would be the series and order of how-tos (that work) I should read to get myself up to speed without having to spend a year trying to plod through all this on my own? Because, so far, the reading I have done on my own, and the examples contained there-in, do not work. Some even have basic coding errors like missing (') in the example snippets. *boggle*
And how do I kill the services tab and registry leftovers from an uninstall in windows XP? XP refuses to let the keys be deleted as they correspond to the Windows service. This should have been removed during the uninstall.
Thanks Shad _______________________________________________________________________
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Winkler" <pw_lists@slinkp.com> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 05:15:59PM +1000, Julian Melville wrote:
As far as I know (and I'm no authority) ZClasses aren't really the way to do things any more. Your best bet is probably ZPT's and Python scripts, then eventually should you need to, develop Python-based products.
Well, zclasses vs. zpt & python script is comparing apples and oranges... like saying "don't use a car, use some wheels and engines." ;-)
As for zclasses being "not the way", there's some disagreement about this. I don't use 'em myself (lately I've been building on EasyProduct when I want to a new class quickly); others have reported problems transitioning a zclass between zope versions; but Dieter Maurer, who knows as much of zope as anybody, says he's been doing it for years without problems.
--PW
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