Ok, found the start Icon and clicked it. Got a Dos box. It seemed to do nothing. Then I clicked the link I was given below. I got messages that said a new Zope disk had been detected. It seemed that I was talking to a Zope program somewhere and it was trying to assign me a spot. I think the word socket came up a few times. Each time there was a consecutive number, 8020, 8021,8022 ect. I was expecting a screen from a web page like I had seen on a tutorial. Unfortunately I cannot find that tutorial now. Is this something I operate from a dos box? Or should I get a web page when I click the link below? Thanx John Q. Public if you're installing zope in 98, and didnt change anything, then zope will be installed in c:\program files\WebSite go to that folder, double click start.bat then access zope from http://localhost:8080/manage to get started --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.