Hi there, after a software upgrade (system and zope/plone) we have a strange problem. we have an old site that runs under plone 2.1 Zope-2.8.9-final python 2.3.5 when I start it in the foreground with bin/zopectl fg everything works fine. if I however start it with bin/zopectl start bin/zopectl status shows after some seconds zope@corinna:~> instances/kanneweb3/bin/zopectl start daemon process started, pid=26697 zope@corinna:~> instances/kanneweb3/bin/zopectl status daemon manager running; daemon process not running zope@corinna:~> I see no entries in the logs, so I have no idea where to look. for any hints how the caus of this problem, I would be gratefull robert This is what the controllpanel shows: Zope Version (Zope 2.8.9-final, python 2.3.5, linux2) Python Version 2.3.5 (#3, Mar 11 2008, 10:14:33) [GCC 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)] System Platform linux2 SOFTWARE_HOME /home/zope/Zope-2.8.9-final/lib/python ZOPE_HOME /home/zope/Zope-2.8.9-final INSTANCE_HOME /home/zope/instances/kanneweb3 CLIENT_HOME /home/zope/instances/kanneweb3/var Network Services ZServer.HTTPServer.zwebdav_server (Port: 8290) ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_server (Port: 8280) Process Id 26719 (-1229186160) Running For 1 min 21 sec