Okay, this is one of those times to ask the list rather than try and work it out... :) The HOWTO at http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC assures me that methods like objectIds should be accessible via http access, as in http://mysite.com/Container/objectIds, yet this patently does not work (at least in my site), even with appropriate authentication provided in the URL. The result is the notorious "object does not have a docstring" error. At least one comment by Dieter (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.archetypes.devel/2800) suggests that this error is actually a "not found" response, and *also* appears to suggest that actions methods are not callable, unless wrapped (though I may well have understood the meaning of the term "action id"). The article http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=b1tu76%24ht 6%241%40norfair.nerim.net also states that objectIds isn't accessible via xmlrpc and needs a wrapper. Whether via plain old http or xmlrpc, I can't get methods like objectIds to work. I can, of course, use the ZMI manage_ methods via http to do what I need, but that's not amazingly convenient, since any errors are delivered back in HTML intended for a human, and I need to use tricks like modifying the standard_error_message template so that I can detect a given string and spot that an error's being flagged. There must be something I'm missing here... ben ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________