I have a ObjectManager/ZCatalog ZClass Searcher which can contain folders. I create a folder Test in an instance. / -> Searcherinstance -> Test Both Test, Searcherinstance, and the root folder do not let Owners add ZGadfly objects, yet it shows up in the add menu of Test as an option for a Owner to add. Apparently the Searcher ZClass inherited the ZGadfly permission from either the FOlder or ZCatalog, I can't figure out why they're a default in either, but I still have set it to not allow it to Owners. Any ideas? -- Itamar - itamars@ibm.net ---------------------------o----------------------------------------------o Perl/Gimp Greeting Cards | Trust? Ha! The US dollar is backed by ICBMs! | http://www.sealingwax.com | --Anonymous Coward, Slashdot |