Hi folks, I am slowly, very slowly, getting comfortable with loginManager, but I've hit yet another snag, and I am too tired today so I'll just ask and hope for a kind soul to hep me out. ^ | -------- See, I am tired! I am in the process of adapting the example provided by dlpierson (thanks by the way), so I am using a skinscript and an external database (MySQL). In coming up with form based addition of new users, I figured might as well use newItem and the skinscript rather than calling SQL methods directly. But newItem complains, and I found out that the problem is that rackList is empty, but isn't UserSource a rack? Why isn't it in rackList? (In case someone asks, yes I do have a UserSource in the LoginManager, and it seems to work OK otherwise). Cheers, Jean