Hey Paul, Just read your article (http://www.pault.com/zope.html) and really enjoyed it (besides comparing Java to Macs... yikes!). I agree that DC needs to really work with Zope Product Developers and help them as much as possible. I build and maintain a product and there are times when working with a new release or debugging something new in Zope that I would love to have a full fledged contact at Zope. You are correct that the first thing that people ask about Zope is "What products are there for it?" and the answer is "A lot" but not all of them well supported, useful or documented. DC should encourage and then force developers to be a bit better about documentation. I have seen product developers put up a new product with the full amount of documentation about it being "here it is... have fun." This certainly does not help all of those people who want to install and use Zope products. DC can encourage better product development and documentation by doing simple things such as T-shirt contest for best product documentation, tip, how-to and all the rest. Maybe a monthly thing that gets and keeps everyone involved. Did you see how much time people spent over at ZopeZen.org just to get that T-shirt. A sense of fun and excitement can go a long way. I also like the idea of a Zope Product Zone that links from the home page. "Downloads" does not really get the point across to most people of the depth of stuff there. Basic stuff such as how to analyze the stats and how to find a good Zope hosting provider would also go a long way. Anyway.. I wanted to thank you for you thoughts and ideas. I have CC'd the Zope mailing list (where all the developers really live) so as to share the response and encourage more. Thanks, J