Thomas wrote:
The question I'd like to raise to the entire list regards Zope's stability. We are running Zope integrated with Apache off FreeBSD3.2 . As far as I know, this is not such an exotic setup (probably rather common?). As Chas explained previously, Zope just suddenly died. Teodore also had the same error occur and solved it by rebooting his server.
well, we use Zope on Linux combined with apache, and at least it seems to be nearly as stable as apache/php3/mysql. we might be lucky, but the real production server runs since it's up without any significant problems. that's the good news, the bad news is that this doesn't seem to be true in every environment. our intranet server (running zope) crashes about every three or four days without an obvious reason - normally not even reproducable. as our primary webserver hasn't been affected so far we believe that this behaviour might be caused be the ongoing work that's done in our intranet. so my advice is: use a separate computer as a webserver on which you only store 'things' that have been tested very well and you won't have much trouble. but: never, never, never use the production server for daily work as it seems to become more unstable with every call to standard_error_message... don't get me wrong: i like zope and working with it, and we do a lot of things these days that couldn't be done with the tools we used before, but i'm quite aware of the fact that bleeding edge technology tends to be a bit touchy. if you keep that in mind (and perhaps set your server up in a way that you get an SMS as soon as it crashes) you will have fun while working and happy customers. regards gregor --- PBM Online Services / Artis Group newmedia concepts Gregor Ottmann Leiter Softwaredesign go@pbm.de / ottmann@artis-group.com www.pbm.de / www.artis-group.com