Hello all, We recently had a "sales engineer" from Allaire come and talk to us about Spectra and were quite surprised at how similar it is to Zope. To be honest the only thing I left with any "ooh, thats neat" feeling about was their general style of building objects with the admin view optionally identical to the user view but with icons inserted below images, content etc to allow immediate altering of the content. The same stuff is simple to acheive in Zope, almost. Make a ZClass, add index_html which adds a header, footer and puts render_html in the middle. Then use render_html to embed it in other docs and index_html to view it standalone. Add a check to see if the user is logged in and has View management screens rights, if so give them little icons "in place" to edit the content and images. This works fine.. <dtml-if "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View management screens', '')"> <a href="<dtml-var id>/propertysheets/Basic/manage"> <dtml-var "content_image.tag(border=0)"></a> </dtml-if> Now, this part is simple enough but it leads to a problem. The default methods for updating ZClass properties and images all redirect back to manage_main by the look of things. I propose that two things be added to this to allow simple management of redirection from the update/edit/change methods. 1) All instances of manage_main be changed to manage_workspace so the default view if given rather then contents_html. 2) That an optional redirect url can be supplied to everywhere this happens to override the redirect. Then once a user logs into the site, leaves the admin view after perhaps joining a version and travels through the site, it has extra icons immediately allowing them to edit the contents of certain things. The redirection would take them back to the extended user side view after pressing submit. I've looked at Image.py in OFS and this is fairly simple but I thought I'd suggest it so we could perhaps form some standard on the redirect url variable that would be passed about. Any thoughts? Phill ps. I've not looked at the DestinationURL stuff properly to see if it does anything like I'm asking.