On Tuesday, April 13, 1999 4:50 PM Christopher Petrilli wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 01:45:02PM -0700, Andrew Wooldridge wrote:
[...] 7) implement a mailing list from within Zope
Woah, different thing entirely. Check out Mailman (www.list.org), and there's some talk about implementing a sort of integration between the two, but that should be taken to them, not to the Zope people.
Actually, it so happens one of the primary mailman implementers is here at digicool. I've played a tiny bit with substituting some zope-based dtml for mailman's homegrown web interface it's a tantalyzing temptation to just go ahead and do the whole thing. That, however, wouldn't add a whole lot of value (it would just simplify the interface code, at the expense of a whole nother system on which mailman depends), and we'd like to think through what we'd really want to accomplish with such an effort. We're working on the foundation for a notion of membership in our linux expo project, and there's one thing that would be a compelling case for superficial integration. Then there's the persistent object store and other facilities for doing a nice persistent server, which would make my mouth water if i were a particularly obsessive compulsive personality. (No, my mouth is not actually watering.) Plus, having a two-way interface with email in zope is a really interesting prospect, adding value to zope as well as to systems that use it. There are some really interesting opportunities here - email systems like, but less monolithic than, conventional mailling lists, where for instance email-based "discussions" can be embedded in documents, and spawn off new resources as threads spin off. Or whatever - more thinking needs be done. So there's a lot of nice stuff to do here. When we'll pinpoint what, that would have priority, is a question. There's *lotsa* nice stuff to do with zope...
c)workflow
27 ton weight. But not impossible, but I'm not sure it belongs IN Zope, honestly.
I would not dismiss this too quickly. We went into the dreamworld for a day or two, thinking about what could be if we had a versatile workflow engine in zope, and i think a lot of mouths were watering. Imagine if you had a bunch of interfaces and could express your activity logic for expressing the flow between them in a high-level, comprehensible way. That might be a reeeal convenient way to build applicable portions of a web site. This is probably something we'll return to after linux expo. Ken Manheimer klm@digicool.com