About archetypes... Documentation http://plone.org/documentation/archetypes Nice presentation (in French) : http://lsm2004.abul.org/IMG/pdf/slides_-_zope_archetypes_-_Gilles_Lenfant_.p df (look at the links on page 35) Pascal -----Message d'origine----- De : zope-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces@zope.org]De la part de Sascha Welter Envoyé : mercredi 6 avril 2005 09:44 À : zope@zope.org Objet : Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses? (Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 06:46:23PM -0400) zope-request@zope.org wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>: "ZClasses" feature prominently in the Zope book.
Seems they are more recommended than the new development paradigm (which does not yet feature at all in the Zope book).
I don't know if I'm living under a rock or something, but I'm using Zope on and off since about 2.5.1, and I've barely heard about archetypes. So far I did not come across a simple introduction, tutorial, or even explanation of them. Of course I haven't searched, but I guess that is the point of Dieters remark. ZClasses, external methods and to some extend Python products byte you the moment you get to the Zope documentation. The "new stuff" is that stuff I hear the buzzwords flying around, but once I touch something of it, I'm lost pretty fast. If something is the "new and recommended way" of doing things, it should be first place in the docs. The "Zope Bible" has Python products before other stuff IIRC, good. If the "new stuff" is so great and easy to use, it should also be easy to put some documentation of it in Chapter 2 or 3 of whatever the Zope Docs will be. As for the question of depreciating ZClasses: I had started out with ZClasses once, got to know the limitations and am now doing Python products. I've learned a lot using ZClasses, as one can jumble and play around with object orientation much easier. Python products offer a much steeper wall, there is much more that has to be just right just to get started. So if the "new stuff" offers that easy intro playground and has adequate docs, then replace ZClasses. And btw, keep up the good work, thanks! Sascha -- http://betabug.ch/blogs/ch-athens _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************