me again.. the "only one zope process running" is here again. this time, i did what dieter suggested, and looked at the debug info. attached below is some info. my setup, again: zope 2.2.4 , ZEO 0.4.1, RH 6.2, apache-1.3.12, mod_pcgi2 i think there should be a manage debug howto. i can only view, but can't really deduce what is what. mebbe i'm just too dense. if anybody could point to docs, explain a bit, etc, i would be indebted. and, yes, i've read/reread HelpSys thanks, and merry xmas and a happy new year. -----8<---------------------- top output 11686 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 6.9 11.3 30:01 python 11687 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 0:05 python 11688 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 4:16 python 11689 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 3:18 python 11690 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 3:21 python 11691 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 3:16 python 11692 nobody 14 0 58588 57M 1724 R 0 92.9 11.3 715:06 python 11693 nobody 0 0 58588 57M 1724 S 0 0.0 11.3 3:34 python these are from manage debug Zope version: Zope 2.2.4 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) Python version: 1.5.2 (#1, Feb 1 2000, 16:32:16) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- System Platform: linux-i386 Process ID: 11686 (5126) Running for: 23 hours 46 min 54 sec Top Refcounts: DocumentTemplate.DT_Util.Eval: 9362 Products.ZCatalog.Catalog.Catalog: 3463 ..other refcounts snipped ..here are the connection open time - there are 7 connections open, and on 5 of them it was open about sometimes back, as shown below. the only new open connection is the debug (mine). none of the 5 requests are RDB related. all are normal ZODB calls. Thu Dec 21 10:07:25 2000 (84065.60s) Thu Dec 21 10:07:23 2000 (84066.75s) -- http://www.kedai.com.my/kk http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine We don't need no, no, no, no, no parental guidance here!