I've read Brad Hull's comments and the discussion that followed with some interest, as I'm in a similar situation. I have both Zope 1.x and Zope 2 running on an NT machine and I'm currently doing some prototyping using Zope as a collaboration support system (essentially committee managment) and a system to deliver educational material. It has potential to go far beyond that in our environment--which includes 18 hospitals that are geographically dispersed (with one in Italy). We seriously need a multi-author information managment system that we can customize completely, and I see Zope as a framework that can provide this. Unfortunately, the current problems with documentation limit our work to limited "high maintenance" experimentation. What's really needed to solve this problem is a framework for creating the documentation quickly, and something to kick-start the effort. I'd suggest that DC, as a part of its scheduling of fall training sessions, create one or more training sessions on Zope 2 specifically for documentation writers. Ideally, these "Documentation Seminars" would be a partnership with the user community in which the training would be given at no cost other than transportation and lodging (which the trainees would pay for). Those interested in contributing to the documentation effort could apply to DC to attend the seminar and DC would choose the final participant list based on qualifications, available time, etc. In addition to a download of information about Zope 2 to writers, the seminar(s) would also include an organization session in which the documentation work was divided into specific assignments and timelines were set. It's in all our best interests that we get some quality documentation out as soon as possible. A concerted effort like this would be one way to harness the user community to do just that. Jim Harrison ________________________________________________________________________ James H. Harrison, Jr., MD, PhD Associate Director, Division of Pathology Informatics Department of Pathology, Univ. of Pittsburgh Health System C920 PUH, 200 Lothrop Street Pittsburgh, PA 15213 jhrsn@pop.pitt.edu | voice: 412-647-5529 | fax: 412-647-9588 "If you want sense, you'll have to make it yourself!!"-Norton Juster ________________________________________________________________________