First, I want to thank everyone who sent email and worked on this problem with me. I've got a solution to report! If you'll remember, the original dtml method looked like this: <dtml-in expr="_[foldername].objectValues()" sort="bobobase_modification_time" reverse> <dtml-unless "_['id']=='index_html'"> <li> <a href="<dtml-var absolute_url>"><dtml-var title></a><br> </dtml-unless> </dtml-in> When I changed the unless to <dtml-unless index_hide>, it didn't work, because nothing was listed. After trying several Python scripts and other suggestions, I asked the very wise rdmurray of #zope if I should change the method completely. We'd already discussed the likelihood of this being a problem with acquisition; in reviewing my dtml method and other information further, he noticed something I'd been leaving out of my explanations. To quote: "Ok, my *guess* is that your problem arose from the fact that your index_html seems to be a DTML Document, since it has a property foldername. I'm guessing that when you tried the index_hide property experiment you naturally set index_hide on the index_html. But since it is a Document, anything called inside it acquires from it, so the hidden property got acquired." His guess was absolutely correct, and that was the problem. When I set my boolean dtml-unless, that's exactly what I'd done. Once that was figured out, the solution was easy: my index_html should always be a method, not a document. Once I corrected that, the problem was mostly fixed. I say *mostly*, because there was one thing left: with index_html now a method, I couldn't set the index_hide property on *it*, so it was showing up in my dynamic index listing. To fix this, and because I never need to list a method in my document indexes, I've excluded meta_type "DTML Method". So, here's the solution I'm now using: <UL> <dtml-in expr="objectValues()" sort="bobobase_modification_time" reverse> <dtml-if "meta_type!='DTML Method'"> <dtml-unless index_hide> <li> <a href="<dtml-var absolute_url>"><dtml-var title></a><br> </dtml-unless> </dtml-if> </dtml-in> </UL> Of course, one could solve this in other ways, and with a little tighter dtml, almost certainly. This solution works for me because I understand it and can modify it later if I need to. Many suggestions I got seemed great, except for being beyond my current capabilities. One of the standards I've set for my zope right now is that I not clip or use dtml or python that I don't understand well enough to modify, etc. Anyway, thanks again for all the assistance! Leigh Ann -- Leigh Ann Hildebrand leighann@onebox.com - email (650) 223-2199 x2231 - voicemail/fax __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com