Steven, TECHNICALLY: Sensible thing to say would be: Use PHP when PHP is the best option for _you_ etc. for Zope and ASP ...technically. I picked up Zope in my spare time spanning over a period as a ASP and PHP developer. Finally having found the Zen of Zope, going back to PHP or even worse to ASP is horrible. I can't say this for JSP but Zope _IS_ considerable better tool for web dynamic publishing compared to MS ASP and PHP. That's the truth from someone who has thoroughly tested all of them. Coding away in PHP, you might feel productive, but that could be just because you have to type more letters in an editor. The benefits with Zope gets more obvious to you after you have tried Zope for a while. This is not the case when you for example move from PHP to ASP, where you notice the difference already after a couple of days. In my computer/webdevelopment friends environment, I have noticed that people like Zope more if they previously only knew one or two of the middlewares. OTHER ISSUES: Zope developers are difficult to get for human resource managers! This is not a small problem. It's a severe problem for the success of Zope. However, you need less Zope developers to your corporate projects thanks to the way Zope work; so you can't judge Zope too harshly on this. Unless you yourself or somebody in your company is a good sys admin, you might find yourself in problems if you are trying to build in some important products with Zope, like database adapters or ZEO. I have found myself many times asking our unix expert to help me when I'm stuck building python with mysql or something. CONCLUSION: Zope is probably technically the best option for most web [/digital] publishing projects. PHP, ASP and JSP are all easier to "handle" as tools for management. I hope that I have shed some light on your wonders, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Grimes" <sgrimes@atinucleus.com> To: "Zope" <zope@zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:40 AM Subject: [Zope] Zope vs other Web Languages.
I've been asked by my superiors to justify using Zope for our web database applications from a performance perspective. I've searched the web and tried to search the Zope site for any relevant performance benchmarks comparing Zope to languages such as ASP, PHP and JSP. Has anyone done any real world benchmarks?
Thanks, Steven Grimes Database Engineer sgrimes@atinucleus.com
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