It's a great start. Thanks. I find it very helpful. I'm also very curious about performance on dynamic content. My experience has been, and I think I'm not alone in this, that even with my rarefied understanding of the capabilities of Zope, I find myself exploiting it's advantages. I don't think I have a single static page on my site. I think it's more to do with mindset. I just don't think in terms of "static" pages, I'm more concerned with the logic than the presentation. In fact some of my pages are extremely complex. Perhaps much more than they need to be, but I'm still learning. Another comment I need to make - this is through experience with my manager. On http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html the key statement is "Tomcat is 2x or 3x faster than Zope when execute an SQL query", the key words being "SQL query". Not pages. Even I missed that first. I'm stating the obvious here, but sometimes even the obvious needs to be restated. And a suggestion - I'd be very interested to know if the above was (still) true for DB access. One piece of logic we frequently use here is to generate a form with default values that are dynamically extracted from a database. Explanation - we have some very lengthy forms. Since we don't expect users to complete them in one go, we give them the option of storing whatever they enter in a session in the DB. And each time the user wishes to update the information, the input form is dynamically generated with SQL query variables (I'm still using <dtml-sqlvars ...> which is slower than the alternatives, but like I said earlier, I'm still learning) being used as default values. Thanks again. Regards, Samir. -----Original Message----- From: J Cameron Cooper [mailto:jccooper@jcameroncooper.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 03:02 To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available A little while back I promised to run some benchmarks. Took a little while longer than I thought, and there is a lot to be desired, but I have published the preliminary results. My results (unfortunately) don't agree with the qualitative results of http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html I imagine the more thorough tests I have planned will reveal more. Anyway, if you like numbers (and who doesn't?) you can find my results at http://zopeedge.com/benchmarks It's a little earlier than I had planned to make the site publicly known, so be well warned that the only thing there that really works is the benchmark area. --jcc _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )