I've just installed pythonmethods and have to take my hat off to Evan Simpson and anyone else involved in the develop- -ment of pythonmethods ! The past 2 weeks, since looking at Zope again, I've been saddened to find that I've stopped thinking about the "problem space" and more about just trying to grok code and make simple stuff work ... the lack of accurate/complete documentation aside, I think the main reason for this is that DTML just looks so damned unreadable compared to python. (I've seen some posts on this list that gave me Perl flashbacks - which wasn't a pretty sight <g>). My productivity has really dropped the past fortnight as a result. So, I'm hoping Python methods can get me back to writing Python ! In fact, this sort of functionality was what I expected and hoped for when I first looked at zope (external methods don't quite cut it because they live on the filesystem and can get 'lost' or separated).. totally essential, especially with the recently posted code to import any python classes. wicked. coding is fun again. On this note though, writing python means that 'tabs' are now important and so using a web-browser to write code is not possible... since the tab sends the focus to the next field. So, I'm using FTP (with Ultraedit on win32) which works great with dtml methods and dtml documents stored in folders but I can't open the following : a) pythonmethods, no matter where they are stored. why is this so ? b) zclass methods. the zclass is shown in the product listing but it's not possible to drill down to the methods. So, right now, I've got a tab in my clipboard and am CTRL+V'ing it when editing pythonmethods via the web browser. This is a bit low tech to say the least ;) Somebody want to put me out of my agony please ? cheers, chas