Hi Zopistas, I'm planning to migrate our company web development from PHP to Zope. The reason is to increase productivity by using a modern language, a powerful framework with out of the box functionality and take care of enterprise concerns (transactions, OO db, complex auth&auth system etc). There's obviously a learning curve. But the questions are if zope/python/plone will really increase productivity and if Zope is mature enough. I have a strong C++ and other OOP languages background, so using OOP is not an issue even of we're moving from PHP. I have some knowledge of UML and played a bit with Python a few years ago. After watching wetfeet.mov I was very impressed. But then tried to follow the tutorial my self, but got stuck with some error: E:\Program Files\ArchGenXML>ArchGenXML.py E:\projects\zope\tt2.xmi <...stack trace ... > File "E:\Program Files\ArchGenXML\XMIParser.py", line 697, in getAttributeValu e return el.firstChild.nodeValue AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'nodeValue' The big issue, besides the error itself, is that I wasn't able to fix the problem after 2-3 hours of googling and so. There's probably some stupid error in the UML model. I tried to see if there are extra spaces in tags (like "required ") or some extra association/tag that is not linked. But got stuck. I've redone the model from scracth, though this is not an option in real world development. This is not a Zope problem necessarily. But to be productive in Zope one needs good tools that work. Other issues that make me think Zope may not be that mature: - I've read the first 150 pages of The Zope Book by now, and found to much errors (grammatical and logical); some example are not actually working because they missed a letter or so; I have the list of errors if someone that works on the PDF is interested - funny comments in the book from other readers (this and that is not working etc.) - clearly ZMI can not be used for development, but rather for administrative tasks and quick dev fixes; can you post the list of tools you're using for Zope development (e.g. eclipse, argouml, software X for WebDav etc.) Some other questions about Zope: - Zope and Plone are clearly for Enterprise projects, but do you think they are suited as well for other smaller projects like: feeds aggregator web sites (like technorati.com, but not that complex), custom web directories (like DMOZ, but a bit more complex), other small projects - is there some migration guide, that also talks about tools that I've asked about above I found some very interested concepts in Zope architecture, like acquisition, I love the core architecture as far as I read. Zope has great potential for sure, but is it in a state that can offer productivity boost when compared with PHP? These were some random thoughts :). It would help me a lot with the decision of moving to Zope or not. Thanks and sorry for the "speling" -- Adi Andreias adi _at_ elvsoft (dot] com Elvsoft, Cluj-Napoca, Romania Online success http://www.elvsoft.com/ Tel/Fax: +40 0364 103 430 Mobile: +40 0723 450 566