Recent versions of GNU Emacs have replaced ange-ftp with tramp, and I cannot get this to work. Various Google searches have yet to show a simple explanation of how to make this work. For example, from my FreeBSD machine (running Emacs 21.2.1 and no tramp) I can get the listing of the top-level of a Zope development server with the path: /admin@luxor 8021:/ and it works great. On my laptop (Mac OS X 10.2.3, GNU Emacs 20.3.5.1) this doesn't work: I cannot connect to a Zope server running locally. Specifying /admin@localhost 8021:/ yields an error, "Not a tramp file name: /admin@localhost 8021:/" If I use instead /ftp:admin@localhost 8021:/ I get a message "tramp: Waiting 60s for prompt from remote shell" followed by "Login failed" about a minute later. I can see how tramp can be a really nice improvement for many tasks, but the lossage with using it to attach to ftp sites on non-standard parts is a Royal PITA. Has anyone been able to get this to work? Thanks in advance, -tree -- Tom Emerson Basis Technology Corp. Software Architect http://www.basistech.com "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity: lick it once and you suck forever"