On Monday 29 July 2002 16:08, Max M wrote:
Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
Umm... No. Why you should use this "JavaScript masturbation"? (sorry, this phrase is taken from ESR essays :) -- no offence. To make yet another one lynx-incompatible site which is *REQUIRED* JavaScript turned on?
Bahh ... technology purists ... No, technology for any. If we have a solution, which is available only for Mozilla/5.0 Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0 (BTW it's time to patch your windoze) that solution is terrible.
Let's see ... we have the most popular technology in decades called the web. Where the user has voted with their feets, almost all of them, that they want modern browsers. Ie. they have upgraded to newer versions. Wait a moment. We have not a "modern browsers", but W3C, RFC and ISO's. Can you point me to JavaScript *standard*? JS is SUN Microsystems Trademark, originally called LiteScript. Actually, Microshaft hates SUN and pushes its own Visual BASIC. JS is *optional* stuff and if user wanna use without JS -- he is right. So if you use JS is not bad (anyway better than BASIC :). But if you use ONLY JS complicated solution -- that's lame IMHO.
And then we should let the use be hampered by accomodating a few Lynx users? I don't get it. That's does not matter you get it or not. You should provide compatibility by standards, not by "what the software use my near friends". First, write JS which detects JS availability. Second, turn to the way you have determined. Sure!, if you've build "Home Page of my favorite homepets" -- I guess your provider will not have so much pain with traffic overload. ;-)
It was the same attitude against the browser in the beginning. "I can do nothing in a browser I cannot do with Gopher, only better." You can do all, what is described over http://www.w3c.org
The web is about looks and interaction as much as it is about the "hypertext ideal." Practically nobody wants to use Lynx. FUD. A lot of www.amazon.com users use Lynx.
-- Sincerely yours, Bogdan M. Maryniuck Microsoft Corp., concerned by the growing popularity of the free 32-bit operating system for Intel systems, Linux, has employed a number of top programmers from the underground world of virus development. Bill Gates stated yesterday: "World domination, fast -- it's either us or Linus". Mr. Torvalds was unavailable for comment ... (rjm@swift.eng.ox.ac.uk (Robert Manners), in comp.os.linux.setup)