Me again, To further explain my dilemna, I just noticed that using the in ITEM loop doesnt seem to work if the dtml-call statement has an extra parameter. I had <dtml-call "verifyLog(mdate=mdate)"> publish.. <dtml-in item> ... ... </dtml-in> Then use as in other working forms: <dtml-call verifyLog> publish.. <dtml-in item> ... ... </dtml-in> Mdate is the primary key, again. This gave me the ITEM Bad Request error. Now, if I remove the mdate call, and remove the condition in the ZSQL method, i can at least now get an error: File /var/Zope-201/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ (Object: <string>) File /var/Zope-201/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 691, in renderwob (Object: item) File /var/Zope-201/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/sqlvar.py, line 168, in render (Object: vswitch) Missing Input: (see above) So, the item is rendering. The variable named item.vswitch is not... nor is mdate which had to be named as an item.mdate instead of being passed in the dtml-call statement as an argument. In forms where this works, i simply call the method and the item renders everything in properly. Now I can do none it seems. One other note is that I var in the form that the input item.fieldname parts are contained, so the calling method to render item is not the same document as the item components. Oi, -- Paz Oratrix Development BV http://www.oratrix.com GRiNS SMIL Editor -