Jason Cunliffe wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
Not yet. I think that O'Reilly doesn't want us to produce any more public versions of the book until it is published. I'm double checking with them right now. Take a look at the copyright verbage on each book page to see what I'm talking about.
Kinda tough to check out/read/find mistakes in a book that's only available as a set of html pages that aren't full text searchable....
This is a really good point.
Just as open source benefits from real-time peer review, so do manuscripts get better when fresh eyes and minds and go over them.
How about 'releasing' a PDF / HTML Doc with header/footers clearly marked: 'Preview Review copy for Copy-Editing use only. Not for general public or commercial distribution'
This is a good idea and probably a good compromise, but this would require us taking the time to negotiate it with O'Reilly and engineer a stx-pdf converter and pre-empt alot of work we have lined up for the book and other documentation efforts. With the existing setup, we don't have to worry about this for a couple months and we don't have to stir the shit with O'Reilly.
The number of people who are likely to 'bootleg' the Zope book must be tiny.
I agree, and honestly, Amos and I don't care about the bootlegging or book sales revenue. It is also not our job to enforce the rules; I would chuckle to hear about people 'bootlegging' ilicit PDF copies of the book.
Most will want to see the book sales thrive,
Yeah, NY Times bestseller list!!!
so that Zope grows and gets the wider recognition it deserves.And to save time and money when developing Zope projects. For such sophisticated 'free' software, a well written, well edited book is a trivial price to pay.
The issue is how to get the best final copy to the printer in timely manner.
Well... from your perspective (and ours) but from O'Reilly's I think they're woried about *who* the first person to print that best final copy is. Those are the people they are worried about bootlegging the book, not you, they _know_ you'll buy a copy. ;) If we open content it now, someone could beat ORA to the shelves by a week and undercut a sizable percentage of sales and all they would ahve to do is put ORAs name on the cover, but they don't get any money. I feel your pain on all issues. A couple more months and this will all go away. -Michel