David, If you are (as I would be) mostly concerned about the :8080 URL showing up (or worse, users having to type it) when you access this Zope site, and especially if you want to embed it in a larger site, there *is* a trick. You can create an HTML page on the inaccessible server which is a "frames" document with only one frame that takes up the whole page. Use the real page from your Zope server (including the :8080 port #) as the content page for that frame. I considered using this as a way to integrate an intereactive help desk type site into an existing (fixed and highly regulated) organizational webpage. I might even still use it (but I'm leaving that post anyway, so it may not be my decision). It's sort of an ugly concept, but I think it would work. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com