Hello, I'm trying to get an external method to create an object. When I try the external method defined below Zope says an error has occurred. If I take out the line thisapp=licapp.licapp() then it prints 'hi' in a browser. I know my code is okay because this is something I've built external to Zope and I'm now trying to get it working with Zope. Is there anyway to get informative error messages? All afternoon I've been struggling with 'an error has occurred' or ' a serious application error has occurred' and not having a clue what is wrong. Is there an easier way to develop with Zope where you actually get useful feedback on what is going wrong? import Shared.bend.licapp def makedepts(): "Create and display deptmartment list" thisapp=licapp.licapp() return 'hi' Benjamin L Derstine Network Administrator Real Education, Inc. 10200 A East Girard Avenue Denver, CO 80231 e-mail: bend@realeducation.com phone: 303-873-7400 fax: 303-873-7449 http://www.realeducation.com "The Leader in Online Education over the Internet"