A few days ago, a similar question to mine was asked: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/ByKey/A5E30D4A4F40707A My problem is: I have a subfolder, want to create a user defined role, with which I can manage (i. e. add, edit, delete) users. When I give a user that UDR, he cannot get on the content screen of acl_users but is immediately redirected to the Security tab. Even typing in the direct URL doesn't work. But when I give that user the manage role which has EXACTLY the same permissions (my UDR has every possible permission for testing), then it works. What's going on here? I read a few threads about that topic, but either the authors didn't get an answer at all or the answers were confusing, because they matched only the special case of the author. All I want to know is if a user necessarily has to have the manager role to manage users. Thanks to you all! -- Lars Heber, mailto:Lars.Heber@t-systems.de TTTTTT TT T-Systems, debis Systemhaus GEI GmbH O TT O O O TT