I am attempting to start zope 2.6.2-2 with zope-cmf 1.3.2-1 zopectl 0.2.6 and get connection refused at http://localhost:9673 root@toolbench:/etc/zopectl# /etc/init.d/zope restart Restarting Zope instance default... Waiting instances in late: default(0), done. Could this be a good install, but needs content before it will reply? all howtos I find say I will get a quickstart page if I get this far, so I have been looking at the install steps...for problems. permissions problems withthe debian package seems likely. I get: root@toolbench:/etc/zopectl# ps ax | grep zope 13139 ? S 0:00 gvim zopectlrc 14059 ? S 0:01 /usr/bin/python2.2 /usr/lib/zope/z2.py -l /var/log/zope/default/Z2.log --pid /var/run/zope/default/Z2.pid -f 8021 -p /var/lib/zope/cgi-bin/default -u zope -M /var/log/zope/default/Z2-detailed.log -z /usr/lib/zope -w 9673 INSTANCE_HOME=/var/lib/zope/instance/default SOFTWARE_HOME=/usr/lib/zope/lib/python 14816 ? R 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.2 /usr/lib/zope/z2.py -l /var/log/zope/default/Z2.log --pid /var/run/zope/default/Z2.pid -f 8021 -p /var/lib/zope/cgi-bin/default -u zope -M /var/log/zope/default/Z2-detailed.log -z /usr/lib/zope -w 9673 INSTANCE_HOME=/var/lib/zope/instance/default SOFTWARE_HOME=/usr/lib/zope/lib/python and when I ls some of those, the dirs have not been created, and are owned by root, not zope user. zope user is a member of zope group only as installed. John G stuck and thinking of a source install -- John Griessen Cibolo Design Austin Texas