Thanks Derek, Paul, and Cameron. I appreciate the help. I created the EVENT_LOG_FILE environment variable and then took the "s" off "constructors" and I did get an error in the log. It really helps to know where to look and I appreciate the time you guys took to respond. I'm still running into confusing errors. I have a form that adds a new user that looks like this; <dtml-in valid_roles> <dtml-if expr="_vars['sequence-item'] != 'Anonymous'"> Zope is giving me this; Error Type: SyntaxError Error Value:Line 2:"_vars" is an invalid variable name because it starts with "_" The lines are coming out of The Zope Book. I went over the file twice to see if I had mistyped something but I don't see anything. Is the book wrong? There's nothing in my class called _vars so I assume this is supposed to be internal to Zope. Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong? I'm not very good at typing things in so I've ended up with a lot of typos. I can find and fix them pretty easily but I've noticed that my changes don't get loaded into zope automatically. I restart zope but the original syntax error stays unless I delete the product before I restart. Is there an easier way to force the product to reload? Thanks again for the help.