Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
I'm looking for/want a Zope mailing list that's for more advanced programming under Zope.
zope-dev is for Zope innards, which isn't appropriate, and I think the level of some of the stuff that comes through zope@zope.org is a little low (and fairly repetitive), which seems to remove most of the skilled people from the list due to noise.
A zope-hackers type list would be quite useful I think. Anyone else think it would be a good idea?
Allright, everyone else got their two bits in... I really need to get some sort of weekend mail access :-) akm's suggestion is a good one, although whether or not it will have the desired effect is a big question mark. To do so I think it needs to avoid the stigma it seems to already have: "zope@ is for mindless newbies, zope-hackers@ is for people who can tie their shoes, zope-dev@ is for Gods". I'm not sure how to accomplish this. It's really about being in different levels of development, not about "list A has smarter people than list B". I am going to risk having to don my asbestos suit here and say that closing ALL the lists would be extremely helpful, and it's not even about spam. Requiring at least a few seconds of lurking before posting is a great idea. If you want hand-holding and don't want to take a brief effort to see what the list is about, then you can pay someone for support. Okay, I said it, flame away. One nitpick re naming: -hackers is historically used for what zope-dev currently is being used for. If there is going to be any change along these lines, perhaps a gradual rename of -dev to -hackers is in order, paralleled with a new list -devel or some such. -- Matt Behrens <matt.behrens@kohler.com> System Analyst, Baker Furniture