Does anyone have any tales around getting GUF to authenticate out of a SQL connection. I've managed to get GUF setup and working. Then I went thru the How-To by 'hippy', but of course, now it doesn't work and I get no errors, reports, hiccups or rumbles. I simply get to login in, over and over again. I wondered if anyone had had some success with this and if so, could they share. Also, while I'm on this, could anyone tell me how DC handles the Members area at Zope.org. This is exactly what I am trying to do with GUF and would happily copy the Zope site method if that info were available. In fact, I'd be happy to document the method if there were some way I could get a heads up. Thanks jim -- In a five year period we can get one superb programming language. Only we can't control when the five year period will begin.