After two and a half weeks of tinkering with Zope, I have decided that I will ditch my conventional web technology for this new alien technology. It has already rewired half my brain, so I might as well go for a complete rewiring job. You sure you guys at DC aren't from another planet? ;-) The site I am constructing as a means of learning Zope uses frames by default if supported by the remote. For browsers that do not like frames or users who don't want frames, I have constructed psudo frames using tables. Insterad of trying to explain this in words, below is a quick snippet of code illustrating the problem. FRAMESET: <frameset> <frame target=title src=<!--#var title_src-->> ... </frameset> TABLESET: <table> <tr> <td colspan=2> <!--#var title_src--> </td> </tr> ... </table> With that, both the problem and the concept of what I am doing should be clear. For each frame there is an xxx_src variable which is set to the DTML object id to be displayed in the particular frame (title_src=/Title.dtml). The frameset version works as expected while the tableset only displays the '/Title.dtml' string (which is why my test version uses <!--#var Title.dtml--> instead). My question is this. Is there a builtin way to get the contents of the DTML object pointed to by xxx_src instead of the object name? If not, then I am assuming that I will need an external method which is one beast I have yet to figure out. Regards, Jarrod Kinsley