Hi, I have put objects inside a folder tabledef and would like to refer them : <dtml-in "_.getitem('tabledef').objectItems(['DTML Document'])" sort=id mapping> <dtml-var "_['sequence-item']" html_quote> </dtml-in> However, this does not work, But putting the objects in the current folder works without problems: <dtml-in "objectItems(['DTML Document'])" sort=id> <dtml-var "_['sequence-item']" html_quote> </dtml-in> I also try: <dtml-with tabledef> <dtml-in "objectItems(['DTML Document'])" sort=id> <dtml-var "_['sequence-item']"> </dtml-in></dtml-with> and some other combinations, all without success. How can I access the objects (DTML DOCUMENTS) inside a folder? Moreover, I would like to do the following: I have some properties of an object abc which have same name with the object ids in the tabledef folder, I would also lookup the objects' properties : <dtml-in propertyMap mapping> <dtml-with tabledef.id> <dtml-var help> <dtml-var taborder> </dtml-with> </dtml-in> Assume abc have a property address, then there should be a dtmldoc call address in tabledef, which have properties "help" and "tableorder". I would like to retrieve them. Can somebody help me with these? Rgs, Kent Sin --------------------------------- kentsin.weblogs.com kentsin.imeme.net