After looking at both Zope and Enhydra I concluded for my purposes that they really fit into two very different realms. Both tools (applications, application interfaces, whatever you want to call them) fit the bill for developing web applications. Both tools provide for HTML/XML markup to easily integrate with web designers. Enhydra deviates from here to be more consultant/development driven with its class file delivery/deployment method. Where as Zope continues, it provides an interactive management model, where the web designer can update an application and extent it without having to have development support, there is no compile phase that needs to be done before deployment. I believe it depends on what your perspective; If you're more development centric, Enhydra works great. If you have to interface developers and designers on a an ongoing basis and want to deligate more control to designers Zope is the winner. Well thats my 2 cents. -- ------------------------------- tonyr@ep.newtimes.com Director of Web Technology Newtimes Inc. -------------------------------