has anyone written an evaluation of the dreamweaver / asp / php / flash approach compared with the zope approach ? I don't know much about it myself I'm looking for something to find out more more myself and to show to colleagues who unthinkingly are going down the commercial path looking for something analytical and substantial that would stand up to scrutiny and help me identify the key issues ie. separation of presentation from logic but going into it, not just stating it meanwhile, I'll keep learning zope and python, which I'm enjoying btw thanks! - Bill Kerr ps,. here's an extract from the mail that prompted this question prices are educational (I'm a school teacher) pps. I'm chucking in asp and php because someone told me that dreamweaver supports them The Company is Network Educational Australia Freecall: 1800 801 332 web: www.network-ed.com.au Bundle 1: Web Design Studio (Dreamweaver 4 - soon MX, Fireworks 4 - soon MX, Flash MX, Freehand 10) plus curriculum materials 15 for $2200 30 for $3300 - (local - $6840) 50 for $4950 Bundle 2: Web Design Studio - as above + Director 8.5 Shockwave studio + Authorware plus curriculum materials 30 for $4400 - (local - $32,550)