--On 16 December 2002 09:31 -0500 Kyler Laird <kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:33:18PM -0000, Paul Browning wrote:
I think you can get a powerful framework like Zope +/- CMF to do reproduce uPortal. But you'd have to write the code first.
One of the things I love about Zope is that it allows me to make tools for people to reuse as content *providers*. Universities are strange places and I often feel like even within the Zope world, there's little understanding of an environment where there are (tens of) thousands of potential independent authors.
It's called herding cats ;-)
But Zope can be made to work in this situation.
I agree - it's very flexible.
Any idea if uPortal lends itself to many authors creating content and tools for each other?
Not at present - uPortal is not a CMS. Though CMS "channels" are on the roadmap. In fact last week Columbia annouced V1.0 of their uPortal offering <http://list.unm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0212&L=jasig-portal&F=&S=&P=10666> This makes me worry though - even in the Java world it seems like wheel re-invention when there's already Jahia, JCorporate, Wyona, Cocoon and doubtless others.
Or does creating useful tools require the equivalent of creating External Methods or Products in Zope?
Effectively, yes.
BTW, my tendancy right now is to investigate Fle3 and Plone (possibly with NeoPortal additions). I'm also finally jumping in to using AbracadabraObjects and PropertyFolders (now that I hacked them to work on my installation). I'm getting more comfortable with being able to assert that I can make a reasonable environment for everyone to use - not just as consumers, but also as providers.
Sounds like you're having lots of fun. Please keep the list informed of your progress. Paul -- The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/