__call__, __bobo_traverse__ I have been going through my products trying to lock things down more using the new security model and I have been making all the security explicit. Mostly because it makes it easy to change and easy to see what the permissions are. However what kinds of security should those two items have? private? public? protected? if protected what permission should they be protected by? What is a good place to find this information overall since it doesn't seem to be in the zope developers guide which I kind of expected some of this kind of info in. Is there a way in zope to have it give you every permission and every method that is protected by that permission? I think it would make this kind of analysis easier. Designing the webpages of tomorrow http://webme-eng.com Designing the MMORPGS of tomorrow http://worldforge.org