Hallo Zope-world, I have a problem I think someone *must* have already solved. I am (relatively) new to zope and I want to offer zope as an easy to use simple CMS for our scientists and students. The put their stuff/files into zope and thats it. No fuzzing around with navigation bars, frames and so if they do not want. They will create rather deep file-hierarchies and the navigation bar taken from standard_header. This is where my problem comes in: I need a simple (text is enough) navigation bar which shows a menu of (all) the entries/folders at the actual, the parent and the child level. So even at level 20 there would only be a simple 3-level navigation bar with the actual position in the middle which adapts itself dynamically to the position within the file system. All the navigation bars I encountered up to now (including the tree tag) clutter the screen if the hierarchy becomes to deep/large, must by manually created and maintained or do not adapt to the hierarchy level. Is there a solution or could anyone help me with this ? If someone could program it I promise to write a decent documentation and do the polishing 8-). I learned a lot about zope looking at the code of the existing products but I am fed up in the mixture of many differents manuals, 164 HowTos, the source code and the zope book. Thanks & Greetings Georg -- Georg Hoermann, Ecosystem Research Center, Kiel University, Germany Tel. #49-431-880-4029, fx: -4083 Home: 0451/47 70 32, -33 fax, 0172/431 57 15 schorsch@ecology.uni-kiel.de