(CVS version 11/July, Linux, Postgres 7) In summary, I have tried this with both the PoPy and ZPyGres flavours of PostGres adapter and with GadFly; these are the only d'bases I have available easily. Any SELECT query which returns no rows (a where <something impossible...> condition) seems to cause Zope to fail to respond to my browser. If I persevere a few times (maybe 7? haven't really counted) then Zope vanishes alltogether. BUT -- this doesn't happen with GadFly; there I duly get a report that no data was returned. I'll swear I didn't use to have this problem a coupel of weeks back, so I'm basivally suspecting Zope, but .... I'm in search of data points with other databases/zopes etc to find out whether this is postgres or what! I'm going to go get 2.2beta4 now and see what that brings ... Thanks in advance ... -- Nigel Head Houbits Hi-Tech Servers nhead@houbits.com