One other point to consider...when you are coming from an RDBMS world and stepping into the object oriented world you will need to make a paradigm shift in thinking when designing you db/product/site. The object oriented nature of the ZODB provides some huge advantages once you grok it (not that I do fully). Python is your friend. That does not mean that you can always eliminate the RDBMS. There are many reasons for using an RDBMS and Zope allows it to be integrated very easily in your site. Mike On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:25, Jim Penny wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:02 -0600 "Norman Lorrain" <normanlorrain@telusplanet.net> wrote:

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If you really want to use Zope (an excellent system, don't >misunderstand me) stay away from RDBMS's.

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My opinion; I'm somewhat of a newbie myself.

A very odd opinion. Database-backed sites need presentation just as much as any other site. Zope makes a fine application server.

To the original poster. If you have something that you think needs 100 tables - then you probably need an RDBMS. Or if you have fewer tables but need many different views of the data. Or if other people need access to raw data without Zope's intermediation, you probably need an RDBMS.

Working with any supported RDBMS is not hard in zope. It is a bit different from ColdFusion and ASP in that you create your queries independently and never embed them in the page. This is a benefit!

Jim Penny

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