Is there any mailing list software for which there is decent integration into Zope? I tried getting a hold of a recent or complete product, but can't seem to find anything. I need to run mailing lists with a web front end for an archive browser and for users to change their settings (subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, all mails, announcements from the list owner only, vacation settings, etc.), also the list has to be moderated (ideally with moderation via web AND mail, but web alone as preference if only one of the options is there). I had a look at Zmailman, but the link given for the product's home http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/ZMailman/ is broken and I could not find any hints of the product's existence on the site of iuveno-net.de. Is this product still alive and where? I think Mailman comes close to what we need, if I could find a decent integration with Zope. Cheers Marc
On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 10:28, Marc Burgauer wrote:
I think Mailman comes close to what we need, if I could find a decent integration with Zope.
Do you really need to "integrate" it? It's easy enough to run Mailman and Zope side-by side. All you need to do is prevent Apache from handing off /mailman and /pipermail to Zope and hand them off to Mailman instead. A couple Directory blocks and a pair of RewriteRules are all it takes. The only real shortcoming I know of is that you'll need to maintain Mailman admin passwords and Zope admin passwords separately... hardly that big a deal for most sites. HTH, Dylan
Marc Burgauer wrote:
Is there any mailing list software for which there is decent integration into Zope?
Hi, yes, it is. Have a look at MailBoxer. MailBoxer is a Zope-Framework to build mailinglist-based applications with Zope. You can easily customize it to fit your own needs. http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/MailBoxer MailBoxer runs all mailinglist of the German Zope User Group with several hundred members and up to 150 mails / day. Others run lists with up to 3000 subscribers etc. If you want to have a look at the archive... go to the mirror of zope@zope.org: http://www.dzug.org/mailinglisten/zope-org-zope/ Cheers, Maik
We integrated Mailman and Zope using a couple of external scripts to programmatically perform Mailman admin functions whenever a new user was added to our site. If you use httplib and urllib, along with some of the functions available in os, sys, and popen2, you can have Zope driving Mailman in no time. I'd be glad to share the scripts if you think they would help. Kevin Marc Burgauer wrote:
Is there any mailing list software for which there is decent integration into Zope?
I tried getting a hold of a recent or complete product, but can't seem to find anything.
I need to run mailing lists with a web front end for an archive browser and for users to change their settings (subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, all mails, announcements from the list owner only, vacation settings, etc.), also the list has to be moderated (ideally with moderation via web AND mail, but web alone as preference if only one of the options is there).
I had a look at Zmailman, but the link given for the product's home http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/ZMailman/ is broken and I could not find any hints of the product's existence on the site of iuveno-net.de.
Is this product still alive and where?
I think Mailman comes close to what we need, if I could find a decent integration with Zope.
Cheers
Marc
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2003年 5月 6日 火曜日 06:43、Kevin Carlson さんは書きました:
I'd be glad to share the scripts if you think they would help. Pretty please! ;)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Carlson" <khcarlso@bellsouth.net> To: "Marc Burgauer" <marc@sharedbase.com> Cc: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Mailing list integration
We integrated Mailman and Zope using a couple of external scripts to programmatically perform Mailman admin functions whenever a new user was added to our site. If you use httplib and urllib, along with some of the functions available in os, sys, and popen2, you can have Zope driving Mailman in no time. I'd be glad to share the scripts if you think they would help.
Pretty please 2 :-) /dario
You can now find the scripts for Mailman integration at http://www.zope.org/Members/khcarlso. There are currently only three scripts that I use to create a mailing list, add a user and delete a user. These three scripts will give you plenty of information should you wish to do more. Hope this helps. Kevin Dario Lopez-Kästen and others wrote:
Pretty please...
Kevin, Clever work. It hadn't occurred to me to do add and delete by calling the Mailman CGIs directly. One question about the scripts: are you assuming Mailman 2.0 or 2.1? Also, you may want to make writing to the alias file optional. Some MTA (at the very least, exim) can be configured to check the Mailman install directly to determine what are valid lists. So for these cases, there's no need to add the output from newlist anywhere at all. Regards, Rob Kevin Carlson wrote:
You can now find the scripts for Mailman integration at http://www.zope.org/Members/khcarlso. There are currently only three scripts that I use to create a mailing list, add a user and delete a user. These three scripts will give you plenty of information should you wish to do more. Hope this helps.
Kevin
Dario Lopez-Kästen and others wrote:
Pretty please...
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Thanks, Rob. The version of Mailman I am using is 2.0.13. I have not tested any of this with 2.1 -- I will make sure to update my Zope Member page to reflect this. On the alias file, you make a very good point. I will modify the script accordingly. Thanks again for your comments! Kevin Rob Thorne wrote:
Kevin,
Clever work. It hadn't occurred to me to do add and delete by calling the Mailman CGIs directly.
One question about the scripts: are you assuming Mailman 2.0 or 2.1?
Also, you may want to make writing to the alias file optional. Some MTA (at the very least, exim) can be configured to check the Mailman install directly to determine what are valid lists. So for these cases, there's no need to add the output from newlist anywhere at all.
Regards, Rob
Kevin Carlson wrote:
You can now find the scripts for Mailman integration at http://www.zope.org/Members/khcarlso. There are currently only three scripts that I use to create a mailing list, add a user and delete a user. These three scripts will give you plenty of information should you wish to do more. Hope this helps.
Kevin
Dario Lopez-Kästen and others wrote:
Pretty please...
If the ZMailman project is inactive, maybe it's time to either resuscitate it or start something new. When I first looked at that work, I worried that it was too ambitious and too tied to Mailman 3 to yield results any time soon. Mailman's code exposes all the functionality that's necessary for Zope integration. I've written some wrappers that make a lot of the functionality available from within a Zope Mailman-list object. _If_ a Zope-Mailman project got going, I would happily contribute these, as well as work on the project. Steve Kevin Carlson wrote:
We integrated Mailman and Zope using a couple of external scripts to programmatically perform Mailman admin functions whenever a new user was added to our site. If you use httplib and urllib, along with some of the functions available in os, sys, and popen2, you can have Zope driving Mailman in no time. I'd be glad to share the scripts if you think they would help.
Kevin
Marc Burgauer wrote:
Is there any mailing list software for which there is decent integration into Zope?
I tried getting a hold of a recent or complete product, but can't seem to find anything.
I need to run mailing lists with a web front end for an archive browser and for users to change their settings (subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, all mails, announcements from the list owner only, vacation settings, etc.), also the list has to be moderated (ideally with moderation via web AND mail, but web alone as preference if only one of the options is there).
I had a look at Zmailman, but the link given for the product's home http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/ZMailman/ is broken and I could not find any hints of the product's existence on the site of iuveno-net.de.
Is this product still alive and where?
I think Mailman comes close to what we need, if I could find a decent integration with Zope.
Cheers
Marc
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