Help! I am Zenless. 8=( I want to keep things simple for content managers. I have a ZClass (agendaClass) that contains a dtml method index_html and a dtml document with id content. The index_html calls the standard header and footer with <dtml-var content> inbetween. I know that the ZDG chapter 1 on ZClasses says that the only permission you should grant to documents and methods in instances is view because you don't want managers to be able to edit the documents and methods, but that is exactly what I want. I want them to edit content to contain the appropriate html content for that particular agenda. I have tried all sorts of permission combinations, but I can't seem to get it right. When I create an instance (agenda), the Contents page appears empty (index_html and content are not listed), but when I view the instance I see the page correctly with the default contents from the agendaClass. I would like "content" to appear on the Contents page of the instance. Clicking on "content" should take the content manager to a set of pages that include Edit, Upload, Properties, and View. I do not want the index_html to be editable. I can achieve a similar result by leaving content out of the agendaClass and teaching all my content managers to Add a DTML Document and give it the id content as soon as they create an instance, but I want this to be automated. Thanks for your help. Al -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Albert Kinderman California State University, Northridge albert.kinderman@csun.edu Department of Management Science