Richard Wolff wrote:

I'm in need of a bit of clarification about how Zope starts up and when it decides to do its authentication and why.

Me, too ;-)

I'm running 1.10.2, solaris 2.6, apache, pcgi, netscape 4.07. When I request mymachine/Zope/manage I do indeed get the normal management screen. I haven't been asked in some time for a password, which suprises me; the 'access' file exists and (but?) hasn't changed since installation.

This surprises me, since as far as I can see, one is always asked for password accessing /Zope/manage. Does netscape 4.07 automatically go through authenticate procedure?

I'd really like the root folder to say something other than Zope, so I added to Apache a second rewrite rule that substitues 'mpg' for Zope in the two places (restarted Apache), and copied Zope.cgi in cgi-bin to mpg.cgi . These two cgi files are identical so they point to the same /var directory.

If I try mymachine/mpg/manage , I get an authorization failed box, and upon clicking 'retry', I get the usual authentication box with the correct 'access' user entered. I type in the correct password and the system fails again ("You are not authorized to use this system. Username and password are not correct").

There are at least two possibility. 1) Misconfigured rewrite rule. 2) mpg.cgi is not altered suitably. (oh, 1+2 gives the 3rd possibility). I was in a similar situation a few days ago. Now one of apache virtual host on my linux box has 1) ordinary apache site tree, 2) experimental(read 'for play') Zope site under hostname/Zope/ (through Zope.cgi) 3) public Zope site under hostname/public/ (through public.cgi) If this is similar enough to what you want achieve and you are desperate enough, just mail me your rewrite rule and Zope.cgi & mpg.cgi with sensitive parts altered suitably. But be aware that I am new to rewrite rules and pcgi world(hence if you are desperate enough).

So, I'm very curious as to what's going on ... and I wouldn't mind learning how to change the top of the root name as well.

This is easy. Just edit BOBO_REALM (NAME?) in your *.cgi file. LEE Kwan Soo. ps. my Zope's have their own var/Data.bbb but you want your Zope to point to the same var/Data.bbb. Oh this seems far beyond the capacity of mortal being. If you really want need this setting, I guess, the easist way to achieve it is getting Zopal blessings from DC(i.e. make a consulting contract with DC).