Forgive me if I missed something. I am evaluating Zope as a possible CMS for a large University with a mix of very non-technical users through experienced technical uers. Our goal is to find something we can offer the non-technical people which _can_ eliminate all the different tools these people try to use which we are then forced to support (ftp, Dreamweaver, HTML-Kit, HomeSite, Frontpage, MS Word, Netscape Composer etc..) I do like the fact that Zope supports use of these tools. However, I was hoping there was add on or extension which offered more of a WYSIWYG interface through the browser for the non-technical people which only presented them with a page's content. For example something that ensures they use a template. It would need to be simple as point and click. I.e. Point to the "nav bar" section of a web page to allow editing of that section of the page. Zope seems to meet most of our goals. So far I'm very impressed. Does anybody have more information as to whether Zope can provide this functionality? BTW: I've seen this functionality in Egrail but the cost can't be justified ($125,000 + 15% maintenance fee)... Regards, -Ryan
Hi, have you seen the SmartSections from http://demo.iuveno-net.de ? They support inline editing in a preview version without any HTML. Has integration for a WYSIWYG-Editor richttext from sourceforge.net . There is also a Product called IEMethod. Check out Formulator and SmartWizard for building your own Input-Templates. There is MetaPublisher and Squishdot and many more. We were in the same situation as you for our intranet, but Zope will out first choice against a commercial cms. Regards, Dirk R^3 schrieb:
Forgive me if I missed something. I am evaluating Zope as a possible CMS for a large University with a mix of very non-technical users through experienced technical uers.
Our goal is to find something we can offer the non-technical people which _can_ eliminate all the different tools these people try to use which we are then forced to support (ftp, Dreamweaver, HTML-Kit, HomeSite, Frontpage, MS Word, Netscape Composer etc..)
I do like the fact that Zope supports use of these tools.
However, I was hoping there was add on or extension which offered more of a WYSIWYG interface through the browser for the non-technical people which only presented them with a page's content. For example something that ensures they use a template. It would need to be simple as point and click. I.e. Point to the "nav bar" section of a web page to allow editing of that section of the page.
Zope seems to meet most of our goals. So far I'm very impressed. Does anybody have more information as to whether Zope can provide this functionality?
BTW: I've seen this functionality in Egrail but the cost can't be justified ($125,000 + 15% maintenance fee)...
Regards, -Ryan
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Hi Dirk, Thank you for the response. I should have been more specific. We are very restricted in what we can use as we are being required to conform to Priority I of the Web Accessibility Initiative <http://www.w3.org/WAI/>. I.e. Solutions for an editor must be as browser Independent as possible. richttext looks very nice but, I think it would get the axe due to its reliance on IE 5.5. richtext looks exactly like EGrail's editor except EGrail lists IE 5.0 or Netscape 4.75 and higher as compatible clients. SmartSections looks interesting but, we would need something more developed (the demo crashed several times when editing text to the "Header" section of a table...). I must confess that I am too new to Zope to fully understand how to implement my own template based editing interface. I will take a look at MetaPublisher and Squishdot next. Could you tell me what you are using? Thanks Again, -Ryan On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Dirk Datzert wrote:
Hi,
have you seen the SmartSections from http://demo.iuveno-net.de ? They support inline editing in a preview version without any HTML. Has integration for a WYSIWYG-Editor richttext from sourceforge.net .
There is also a Product called IEMethod.
Check out Formulator and SmartWizard for building your own Input-Templates. There is MetaPublisher and Squishdot and many more.
We were in the same situation as you for our intranet, but Zope will out first choice against a commercial cms.
Regards, Dirk
R^3 schrieb:
Forgive me if I missed something. I am evaluating Zope as a possible CMS for a large University with a mix of very non-technical users through experienced technical uers.
Our goal is to find something we can offer the non-technical people which _can_ eliminate all the different tools these people try to use which we are then forced to support (ftp, Dreamweaver, HTML-Kit, HomeSite, Frontpage, MS Word, Netscape Composer etc..)
I do like the fact that Zope supports use of these tools.
However, I was hoping there was add on or extension which offered more of a WYSIWYG interface through the browser for the non-technical people which only presented them with a page's content. For example something that ensures they use a template. It would need to be simple as point and click. I.e. Point to the "nav bar" section of a web page to allow editing of that section of the page.
Zope seems to meet most of our goals. So far I'm very impressed. Does anybody have more information as to whether Zope can provide this functionality?
BTW: I've seen this functionality in Egrail but the cost can't be justified ($125,000 + 15% maintenance fee)...
Regards, -Ryan
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Hi! Kontentor from iuveno is what you are looking for. Preview logins are available on request. It has a browser-independent frontend for anything but WYSIWYG text editing. For that it uses the richtext editor or, as a platform-independent alternative, the commercial Java-based editor from RealObjects. It is not really for free, but it should be affordable in most cases. Kontentor is based on SmartSections, Formulator, and a couple of other Zope products. We are implementing it for two universities right now. The code itself is open source, but we can not give too much support for free, as the two customers who pay for it have priority. The simple deal is: Either pay for the support or significantly contribute to the project. Contributors will get (at least some) support for free.
richtext looks exactly like EGrail's editor except EGrail lists IE 5.0 or Netscape 4.75 and higher as compatible clients.
See http://www.realobjects.de/ for the RealObjects editor ...
SmartSections looks interesting but, we would need something more developed (the demo crashed several times when editing text to the "Header" section of a table...).
The version used in the online demo is very old. And tables are the part that has not been implemented correctly yet.
I must confess that I am too new to Zope to fully understand how to implement my own template based editing interface. I will take a look at MetaPublisher and Squishdot next.
MetaPublisher and Squishdot are great for specific tasks. But I think they will not do ALL you need. Neither does Kontentor. But the idea of Kontentor is to give you a framework with configurable forms and templates to start with. Everything else can be plugged in later. Cheers, iuveno AG Joachim Werner Wittelsbacherstr. 23b 90475 Nürnberg joachim.werner@iuveno.de www.iuveno.de Tel.: +49(0)911/9883-984 (Fax: -985)
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