RE: [Zope] cross browser compatibility
I look at my server logs over the past year and when a browser hits 2-3% or lower, stop worrying about back supporting its bugs and inconsistencies. -----Original Message----- From: Mark McEahern [mailto:mark@mceahern.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:54 AM To: Zope Mailing List Subject: [Zope] cross browser compatibility How do Zope folks negotiate the tension between supporting 4.x browsers and developing standards compliant websites? I'd be interested to hear any techniques, strategies, policies you've found helpful--also, if you have a perspective from which my question seems to embrace a false dichotomy, please share that too! Thanks, // mark - _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files.
Hi, In article <A0CB750E1402D511A47600A0C9E110D101CD1FAF@IWA-MERCURY>, Scott Meilicke wrote:
I look at my server logs over the past year and when a browser hits 2-3% or lower, stop worrying about back supporting its bugs and inconsistencies.
What about browsers used by e.g. blind people who may use Lynx and the like to drive text-to-speech systems? I'm not "having a go" - I wanted to raise the subject for the benefit of anybody to whom it had not occurred, and I wanted to understand if you were saying that you wouldn't pander to obsolete browsers which are not standards compliant (I wouldn't), or if you were rejecting the principle that web sites should "degrade gracefully" for those with less spiffy user agents... On this topic, folks might find the following link interesting: - http://www.digital-web.com/features/feature_2002-09.shtml Regards, PhilK Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:12 +0100 @ Ganesh EMail: phil@xfr.co.uk / Phone, Voicemail & Facsimile: 07902 070518 Tell me and I forget. Show me and I remember. Involve me and I understand. - Chinese saying
[Scott Meilicke]
I look at my server logs over the past year and when a browser hits 2-3% or lower, stop worrying about back supporting its bugs and inconsistencies.
[Philip Kilner]
What about browsers used by e.g. blind people who may use Lynx and the like to drive text-to-speech systems?
From the context, I would assume Scott was referring to non-standards compliant browsers.
Anyway, just to be explicit, I would assume the goals we all share are: 1. Minimize or eliminate the need for workarounds for non-standards compliant browsers. 2. Design content that is accessible. 3. Design content that is standards-compliant. (2 and 3 have a certain synergy, but it's worth distinguishing them, I guess.) The problem is, sometimes it's the CEO or lead investor who has Netscape 4.x. So what do Zope folks do to serve up different content? I assume if you serve up different HTML/CSS for different browsers in a Zope solution, that doesn't extend all the way down to the actual content? Cheers, // mark -
I look at my server logs over the past year and when a browser hits 2-3% or lower, stop worrying about back supporting its bugs and inconsistencies.
Depends on how much 3% is in your case. If you e.g. have 100 visits a day, it means, that up to 3 potential customers are perhaps locked out. Designing for usability and accessibility means, that your website might work, even if micros~1.oft or Netscape announce a new browser version. -------------------------------------- Goeldi.com - Internet Services -------------------------------------- www.goeldi.com web@goeldi.com Tel +41-61-7330555 Fax +41-61-7330556 --------------------------------------
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