Without trying to start any flamewar, I want to know which is the best solution for installing and running Zope. This server is behind a firewall and used for development only, so it will only be seen internally. I am trying to simplify the web update process for our departments, and I hope Zope is the answer. I know both operating systems rather well. It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Zielinski bzielinski@co.midland.mi.us Systems Technician Voice: (989) 832-6654 County of Midland Fax: (989) 832-6758 220 W Ellsworth St http://www.co.midland.mi.us Midland MI 48640 This message has been prepared on resources owned by Midland County, Michigan. It is subject to the Information Technology Appropriate Use Policy of Midland County.
It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input.
Hi Bill, While I've only started developing with Zope recently, I've been deploying a Zope product (FLE) for the last year. We use RedHat 9 and are very satisfied. Having said that, I have moved all my other servers to Debian GNU/Linux, and have found it to be superior, particularly with regard to software installation and updating. I've started my own Zope development on a Debian server. There's may be an issue regarding Red Hat's support for the "standard" distribution - this has gone fully open source as Fedora. I'm not a fan of Mandrake. I'd say use Linux; using Debian GNU/Linux is even better. Regards, Cormac. Bill Zielinski wrote:
Without trying to start any flamewar, I want to know which is the best solution for installing and running Zope. This server is behind a firewall and used for development only, so it will only be seen internally. I am trying to simplify the web update process for our departments, and I hope Zope is the answer. I know both operating systems rather well. It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input.
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It doesn't make much difference to Zope itself but it does for third party modules. For example, the LDAP libraries work best on Linux, I'm not sure if they work at all on Windows. On the other hand if you want to use COM to integrate with Microsoft applications Windows would make more sense. Databases are another issue, some of the database adaptors aren't cross platform. Finally, older versions of Python didn't handle large files well on Windows but were okay on Linux. This is fixed now though. A
From: "Bill Zielinski" <bzielinski@co.midland.mi.us> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:28:29 -0400 To: <zope@zope.org> Subject: [Zope] Windows or Linux?
Without trying to start any flamewar, I want to know which is the best solution for installing and running Zope. This server is behind a firewall and used for development only, so it will only be seen internally. I am trying to simplify the web update process for our departments, and I hope Zope is the answer. I know both operating systems rather well. It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input.
Bill Zielinski wrote:
Without trying to start any flamewar, I want to know which is the best solution for installing and running Zope. This server is behind a firewall and used for development only, so it will only be seen internally. I am trying to simplify the web update process for our departments, and I hope Zope is the answer. I know both operating systems rather well. It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input.
Both. Linux: Use it for main zope server. Zope have much better performance and stability at heavy loads under linux (does not lock ups), you can run some products only at linux OS (but these products are much interesting than products that running only at windows). Windows: Use only as zope helper server (mapped via http mounter product) for exact DOC, XLS conversion to HTML via COM (you need also Office XP to do this job). These conversions are much better than on Linux side. You can too run some products only at Windows OS. But if you does not need absolutely exact look of converted HTML documents as their office DOC/XLS originals, you probably does not need zope on windows. Did you see Windows server running without restart service or system for more than one year? With linux it is true! If I see for example long running process which consume CPU due some attacker, I can kill only that process (thread) and Zope lives as fresh running. But these abnormalities I was see TWO times in half year (both was done by myself :o) Regards -- Jaroslav Luke -- Tento e-mail nemu*e obsahovat VIRY jeliko nepocházi z virózního systému M$ Windows!
While it does not really make a difference with respect to the base functionality, my experience is that Linux is more responsive (better performance) and stable. I have been running Zope and Plone on various machines with Windows 2000 and XP, as well as Red Hat 8/9/Fedora. Fedora is my current OS of choice with excellent performance and features. Fedora Core 2 will be out soon with the Linux 2.6 kernel which should even improve current performance. Of course, if you need OS specific libraries that will direct your choice. Otherwise, try to avoid such libraries. ;-) good luck Andre Bill Zielinski wrote:
Without trying to start any flamewar, I want to know which is the best solution for installing and running Zope. This server is behind a firewall and used for development only, so it will only be seen internally. I am trying to simplify the web update process for our departments, and I hope Zope is the answer. I know both operating systems rather well. It's between Redhat 9.2, Mandrake, and Windows 2000. Are there limitations as to each? I thank you for your input.
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